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Silent and cunning.

I do not take actions against me lightly nor do I take action against those that leave me undisturbed.

It is the power of one's conviction that wins wars and battles not the number of followers.

 

 

Everything below is taken from Ellania's profile.

Population

Source: kubluntu (Has a lot of other useful information)

	Population
Town	Total	Avg	Additional
2	450	450
3	2,000	1,000	1,550
4	5,000	1,667	3,000
5	10,000	2,500	5,000
6	20,000	4,000	10,000
7	40,000	6,667	20,000
8	75,000	10,715	35,000
9	130,000	16,250	55,000
10	233,550	25,950	103,550
11	263,550	26,355	30,000
12	294,550	26,778	31,000
13	326,550	27,213	32,000
14	359,550	27,658	33,000
15	393,550	28,111	34,000
16	428,550	28,570	35,000
17	464,550	29,035	36,000
18	501,550	29,503	37,000
19	539,550	29,975	38,000
20	578,550	30,450	39,000
21	618,550	30,928	40,000
22	659,550	31,408	41,000
23	701,550	31,889	42,000
24	744,550	32,372	43,000
25	788,550	32,857	44,000
26	833,550	33,342	45,000
27	879,550	33,829	46,000
28	926,550	34,317	47,000
29	974,550	34,806	48,000
30	1,023,550	35,295	49,000
31	1,073,550	35,785	50,000
32	1,124,550	36,276	51,000
33	1,176,550	36,767	52,000
34	1,229,550	37,259	53,000
35	1,283,550	37,751	54,000
36	1,338,550	38,244	55,000
37	1,394,550	38,738	56,000
38	1,451,550	39,231	57,000
39	1,509,550	39,725	58,000
40	1,568,550	40,219	59,000
41	1,628,550	40,713	60,000
42	1,689,550	41,208	61,000
43	1,747,550	41,608	58,000
44	1,803,550	41,943	56,000
45	1,857,550	42,217	54,000
46	1,909,550	42,434	52,000
47	1,959,550	42,599	50,000
48	2,012,550	42,820	53,000
49	2,068,550	43,094	56,000
50	2,127,550	43,419	59,000
51	2,189,550	43,791	62,000
52	2,254,550	44,206	65,000
53	2,322,550	44,664	68,000
54	2,393,550	45,161	71,000
55	2,467,550	45,695	74,000
56	2,542,550	46,264	75,000
57	2,618,550	46,760	76,000
58	2,695,550	47,290	77,000
59	2,773,550	47,820	78,000
60	2,849,000	48,288	75,450
61	3,000,000	50,000	151,000

Maximum population: 48289 (22 Trade Offices + Warehouse + Common Ground + Paddock + 25 Resource plots)

Important note: The following topics are my opinions/views/experiences. Illyriad is a game were a lot of different ways work - you should chose what you like and how you enjoy the game!

 

City push setups

City push setups are layouts for your cities while you are trying to get more cities. In Illyriad you only have to meet a population requirement to capture/settle new cities. This means that as soon as you have the amount of cities you want you can rebuild and not care that much about population anymore. Because of that it is often a good idea to get rid of some useful buildings with low population for some time and rebuild them after you are finished. It might sound like a lot of work but it makes getting more cities a lot easier! The following chapers show some different city setups to get more cities and what you have to sacrifice for them.

Some advice

• To grow fast you need a lot of Prestige. Selling terraforms, advanced resources and minerals/herbs/hides gets you gold to buy Prestige.
• Having an army makes building a lot harder. If you want to hunt, hunt with elites
• If you want to grow fast focus on population for buildings and not their use. You can rebuild later.
• Getting a lot of cities requires a lot of endurance and work. Illyriad is a grind game. The more cities you have the easier it gets though (up until 40 cities)
• A cluster and beeing near a hub helps a lot while pushing cities 
• Building up the resource plots costs a lot of resources and gives almost no population. If you have a way to get a lot of resources (e.g by buying them, GC Prestige builds or from your alliance) build the population buildings first. It is a lot more efficient!

Basics

• Basic resource increase buildings (Carpentry, Kiln, Stonemason) are expensive but required later on (30+ cities).
• Use Herbalist/Skinner/Miner guilds to fill up empty building spaces. They are cheap.
• Demolish low population buildings (Barracks, Marketplace, Brewery) if needed. It is really expensive to keep them later on (30+ cities)!
• The best building for population is the Trade Office. It has a high resource upkeep, thus build as few and as late as possible. Other good buildings with high resource upkeep are Infantry Quarters and Spearmen billet.
• 7-food. 3-wood sucks for pushing cities. A lot of advanced resources require wood, thus try to avoid 3-wood as much as possible. 3-stone is bad for pushing cities but you can work around that. The by far best distribution is 3-iron. Keep in mind though that later on you do not want only 3-iron, thus mixing it (3-iron, 3-clay some 3-stone) is in my opinion best.
• Food sov is by far the best. Trying to "fix" a 3-plot with sov is really inefficient (as sov is a multiplier for the base production)

City setup templates

Important note: The following setups are template that are NOT set in stone. They give you an idea what to do/expect and what to sacrifice to get a specific amount of cities. You can adjust/improve them to what you like.

Be efficient! Try to demolish as little as possible and as much as needed. Start with your current city setup and fix/improve buildings to get closer to one of the templates. Usually replacing low-population buildings is a really good step towards a lot more population!

Some possible (minor) improvements/changes:

• Having a good wood sov(s) next to your city might enable you to build an additional Trade Offices
• Running slightly negative resources (-1/2k) might allow you to build additional buildings. Be careful with that though.
• Keeping a low-pop building (e.g. barracks) and building more Trade Offices is a valid approach. Not recommended though - as you have to feed your cities!

Basic city setup (20 max cities)

This template does not use any buildings with resource upkeep and has the important non-population buildings.

If you plan to go for more than 20 cities soon do not start with this setup but work towards one of the next two instead.

City population: ~30k 

• Non-Pop: Warehouse, Flourmill, Library, Marketplace, Barracks, Brewery 
• 1497 Pop: 19 (you are completely free here) 

City setup with important low-pop buildings (28 max cities)

This setup allows you to keep most of your important low-population buildings and uses buildings with resource upkeep to get more population. It is convenient but kinda inefficient.

City population: ~34.5k 

• Non-Pop: Warehouse, Flourmill, Library, Marketplace, Barracks, Brewery 
• 1497 Pop: 8 - That includes Paddock, Common Ground, Carpentry, Kiln, Stonemason and 3 free choice
• 2 Infantry Quarters and 2 Spearmen billets 
• 7 Trade Offices 

Note: Replacing the Brewery with a 1497 building allows you to get to 30 cities.

Efficient City-Push setup (38 max cities)

This setup does not run negative resources but has only the really important low-population buildings. It is only useful for getting more cities!

City population: ~39.3k 

• Non-Pop: Warehouse, Flourmill, Library 
• 1497 Pop: 10 - That includes Paddock, Common Ground, Carpentry, Kiln, Stonemason and 5 free choice
• 2/3 Infantry Quarters and 3/2 Spearmen billets depending on resource plot 
• 7 Trade Offices 

Note: Replacing the Library temporarily (you need some research stocked up to continue running sov) with a 1497 building allows you to get to 40 cities.

Temporary City-Push setup (45 max cities)

This setup gets rid of both Flourmill and Library. This setup requires another account to feed the cities with food!

You need to have a few million research points stored up to continue running sov and you need to feed more food. Getting rid of the Flourmill "costs" you 5k food/h, keeping it means you have to build 3 addition TOs for > 8k wood/h consumption (and stone+clay too).

City population: ~42.3k 

• Non-Pop: Warehouse 
• 1497 Pop: 12 - That includes Paddock, Common Ground, Carpentry, Kiln, Stonemason and 7 free choice
• 2/3 Infantry Quarters and 3/2 Spearmen billets depending on resource plot 
• 7 Trade Offices 

Note: After this setup it gets really hard. You cannot replace any low-population buildings, thus you need to replace 1497 population buildings with TOs. You get "only" 500 population for a huge additional resource upkeep.

Making your own template

This topic is how you make your own template. It helps a lot to use a spreadsheet first to calculate all the values/data - you should do that!

The basic idea is to get as much population as possible without running negative resources (other than food). For higher pushes you have to run negative resources. This is a lot more work and harder to do - thus you should try to avoid it as long as possible.

The general approach:

• Decide what non-population buildings (marketplace, barracks, brewery) you really need. Every building costs you a lot of population, thus try to have as little as possible. Without marketplace you can still use your vans - they are just a lot slower. Without barracks you keep your military units but you cannot build new ones. 
• Reduce your taxes to 0-10%. Use as many Trade Offices as your wood production allows
• Use as many Infantry Quarters and Spearmen billets as your clay and stone production allows.
• Use Carpentry, Kiln and Stonemason, as this allows you to run more of the above buildings
• Everything else should be buildings with 1500 or 1497 population. Build the useful ones first (e.g. Saddlemaker, ...) and fill up with ones only for population (miners/herbalists/skinners guild)

 

(Non-PVP) Sovereignty Setups

Most sov setups you can find are focused on PVP, thus getting as much military sov as possible. These cities usually run low taxes and thus consume a lot of gold. Those players usually have a way to generate a lot of gold and e.g. "hiding" a gold farm in another non-PVP alliance has a lot of advantages.

For tournament players/traders/crafters/hunters a different approach is in my opinion better. Use a sov setup that can both run high taxes to generade gold and produce military at a decent rate. The advantage is that those cities require less work and you are more flexible - you have more medium-sized armies instead of a few huge ones.

This chapter contains some sov setups that are able to run high taxes with no/medium troop production.

Basics

Sov Setups

Gold farm setup

The goal of this setup is to produce as much gold with taxes as possible without going negative in research. We are going to run 100% taxes.

City population: ~20.3k (Food multiplier: -75% + 40% + 23.2% + 56%)

• Inner I  : food sov lvl 5 
• Inner II : food sov lvl 5 
• Outer I : food sov lvl 4 

Gold income: ~73k/h

Note: Running "Outer II" sov instead of some lvls of "Outer I" sov works too - it is a bit less efficient though. The upside is that it is easier to change to the following setups and you claim more land for you.

Basic military setup

The goal of the following setup is to run decent military sov while beeing able to run 2 cost reduction buildings and no negative resources. You should run high taxes and can support a medium sized army with that. It is enough to rebuild your army to a decent size between tournaments while not having a gold burn.

Important note: The following setups only works if the main and secondary resource upkeep cost of your cost rection building is NOT your 3 plot! 

City population: ~21k (Food multiplier: -55% + 40% + 23.2% + 40%)

• Inner I   : food sov lvl 5 
• Inner II  : food sov lvl 5 
• Outer I  : military sov lvl 2/3 
• Outer II : military sov lvl 2 

Gold income: ~55k/h with 75-80% taxes

Troop production increase: 120-140% with 2 cost reduction buildings

You can change the military sov to food sov to increase your taxes a bit for more gold production.

 

Highest population Buildings:

Archers Field 1796
Blacksmith 1497
Book Binder 1497
Cavalry Parade Grounds 1796
Carpentry 1497
Common Ground 1497
Consulate 1497
Fletcher 1497
Forge 1497
Foundry 1497
Kiln 1497
Mage Tower 1497
Paddock 1497
Saddle Maker 1497
Siege Workshop 1497
Spearmaker 1497
Stonemason 1497
Tannery 1497
Tavern 1497

Trade Office 2000